Robert Lippoks Theater- und Sound-Arbeiten in Toronto
Ort: Toronto
Ereignis: Gekürztes Transkript des Radiointerviews mit Robert Lippok (Berlin) und Debashis Sinha (Toronto) anlässlich des Theater-Hörspiel-Workshops und Konzerts im Oktober 2007.
(improv music piece by Debashis Sinha)
Host Ron Gaskin: Debashis is here with an explanation about what we just listened to.
Debashis Sinha: That was a track I recorded at the Goethe-Institut in Toronto. It’s an improvisation that I actually recorded binaurally through in-ear microphones. I’m starting to do more free music with traditional percussion instruments. My training is in a lot of different world music systems. So I’m just exploring.
Host: You are adept in many fields, and you mentioned as we were coming into the studio that this was like your radio debut. I find that hard to believe…
DS: Well, the solo work I’ve been doing, it’s kind of starting up. I’ve been nurturing it for a long time.
Host: So, speaking of radio, the reason that you’re in the studio today is you’re going to inform us more about the radio workshop where you’re a local Toronto host and correspondent with Robert Lippok. Robert is here as well. So why don’t you just give us the background?
DS: I’m actually just a participant on this audio workshop. It’s sponsored by the Goethe-Institut Toronto, and the theatre programmer Jutta Brendemühl, who met Robert last year, had been talking to him because he runs these workshops to create radio plays. And I was of course the first on that list because I also met Robert when he came last year and we hit it off. So I’m just one of the four people who are taking the workshop to look at a text, talk about it and make some sound design and that sort of thing.
Host: How did you two actually hook up?
DS: Robert came last year to do a presentation at the Goethe and to do a performance at the Drake. I’d actually been a fan for a while, of “To Rococo Rot”. I liked him right away and I think…
Robert Lippok: It was the same with me.
DS: We’ve been in touch since then and have been hoping to try and play together, which we will be doing on Thursday. When Jutta brought him back to do this radio workshop, I was very excited and we have three other people who are super excited. We all have various backgrounds, mine is more in audio art and music, and we have actors and performers and singers. We’re going to do a presentation tonight at 6pm and it’s free. It’s at HUB 14, which is Queen and Markham, there’s a beer store there...
RL: You haven’t told me!
DS: Yes, I know! Robert will talk about the play and the process of putting it together. We’ll all be there and we’ll actually listen to what we put together, which will be almost half an hour of material.
Host: Robert, by the way of introduction, maybe you could mention what it was that you brought with you as the framework or the blueprint to which the locals contributed and participated.
RL: Not much really. Because I thought if I bring like a framework or finished music with me or even a concept for the radio play, it would be not so enjoyable and so free for the participants. So I just had the text, it’s a short version of a theatre play by Rainald Goetz called “Jeff Koons” and I made a little edit, I chose some parts of it. That was the only thing I had. I had no sound in mind, I had no strong idea about the piece. The nice thing with workshops is that you never know who shows up, what sort of background people have. And I quite like those situations, even for me as the one who makes the workshop, it’s open. And I can learn from the other ones and see where the path is going through.
And this workshop was fantastic. It turned out to be a really nice group. They had loads of ideas, they had little tape recorders where they went through town and recorded stuff. The whole group had a deep impact on the piece.
Host: Did everything go directly into the laptop?
RL: Yeah. I have nothing else than the laptop. I have some old synthesizer, but they’re mouldy in the basement. I don’t use them anymore. The laptop is the thing for me. Of course I have good preamps and microphones and stuff like that, but that’s my tool.
Host: I wonder if Deb could give us a little bit of information or background on who the indigenous artists are?
DS: We have three artists: Erica, who teaches art history at OCAD, she’s also a trained singer and she does opera. There’s an actor named Angie, who’s done a lot of theatre and film in Toronto and around. There’s a performance artist named Lo, who actually had a piece in “Nuit Blanche”.
Host: And I know you did some “Nuit Blanche”, but we’re not looking backwards, we’re looking ahead and tonight: HUB 14, 6 o’clock, Robert Lippok will give an introduction to the radio workshop play. And we’re going to listen to a little excerpt right now.
(short excerpt of the radio play workshop in progress)
Host: Deb, what’s your immediate interpretation and response to that?
DS: Robert has been working really hard, after the workshop’s done. Some of that stuff I hadn’t heard before. I think it’s really lovely. I have to say, it’s really great to be listening to it in a radio studio and knowing that other people are listening to it at the same time on the radio. It brings a very different life to it somehow.
Host:. Robert, you’ve got any composer’s notes or comments?
RL: I just will talk about the play itself, I will talk a bit about myself. Also about the situation in Berlin in the middle of the 90s, with all the clubs, with the techno scene, which was very influential to literature and the art scene where this theatre play came out. And of course we will play the piece and then we will also open the session (in Logic Pro) where people can see how we made it and what tools we used.
Host: Moving on to Thursday, there’ll be another interaction, specifically between you two. Deb, I wonder if you could speak to the performance at the Music Gallery?
DS: We’re very excited to be playing together for the first time after sharing lots of music in the virtual realm. We’re going to be doing a concert that is co-presented by the Goethe-Institut and Yatra Arts and the Music Gallery.We’re going to present our different sound worlds and we’re going to make some really lovely music together.
Host: Robert, would you have anything else in your computer that might be indicative of some of the sounds that may occur at the Music Gallery concert?
DS: He’s gotta look through his huge library of stuff…
Host (to DS): What are you gonna bring in the realm of gear to the stage?
DS: I will definitely bring some of my favourite frame drums and traditional instruments and some very minimal electronics. I’ve been very interested in how electronics can be used to modify the sounds that these instruments make without completely altering them. I love the sounds of metal and resonation and all those things what it does to how we listen, how we hear, how it brings us to that kind of awareness of the physical space we’re in. And also an awareness of what’s outside our own physical space.
(Robert Lippok track)
Host: To Deb and Robert, thank you very much for the immediacy and the opportunity to experience the world premiere, the global, the planetary exclusive…
RL: … the whole universe premiere! Nobody on Mars heard it before.
Ereignis: Gekürztes Transkript des Radiointerviews mit Robert Lippok (Berlin) und Debashis Sinha (Toronto) anlässlich des Theater-Hörspiel-Workshops und Konzerts im Oktober 2007.
(improv music piece by Debashis Sinha)
Host Ron Gaskin: Debashis is here with an explanation about what we just listened to.
Debashis Sinha: That was a track I recorded at the Goethe-Institut in Toronto. It’s an improvisation that I actually recorded binaurally through in-ear microphones. I’m starting to do more free music with traditional percussion instruments. My training is in a lot of different world music systems. So I’m just exploring.
Host: You are adept in many fields, and you mentioned as we were coming into the studio that this was like your radio debut. I find that hard to believe…
DS: Well, the solo work I’ve been doing, it’s kind of starting up. I’ve been nurturing it for a long time.
Host: So, speaking of radio, the reason that you’re in the studio today is you’re going to inform us more about the radio workshop where you’re a local Toronto host and correspondent with Robert Lippok. Robert is here as well. So why don’t you just give us the background?
DS: I’m actually just a participant on this audio workshop. It’s sponsored by the Goethe-Institut Toronto, and the theatre programmer Jutta Brendemühl, who met Robert last year, had been talking to him because he runs these workshops to create radio plays. And I was of course the first on that list because I also met Robert when he came last year and we hit it off. So I’m just one of the four people who are taking the workshop to look at a text, talk about it and make some sound design and that sort of thing.
Host: How did you two actually hook up?
DS: Robert came last year to do a presentation at the Goethe and to do a performance at the Drake. I’d actually been a fan for a while, of “To Rococo Rot”. I liked him right away and I think…
Robert Lippok: It was the same with me.
DS: We’ve been in touch since then and have been hoping to try and play together, which we will be doing on Thursday. When Jutta brought him back to do this radio workshop, I was very excited and we have three other people who are super excited. We all have various backgrounds, mine is more in audio art and music, and we have actors and performers and singers. We’re going to do a presentation tonight at 6pm and it’s free. It’s at HUB 14, which is Queen and Markham, there’s a beer store there...
RL: You haven’t told me!
DS: Yes, I know! Robert will talk about the play and the process of putting it together. We’ll all be there and we’ll actually listen to what we put together, which will be almost half an hour of material.
Host: Robert, by the way of introduction, maybe you could mention what it was that you brought with you as the framework or the blueprint to which the locals contributed and participated.
RL: Not much really. Because I thought if I bring like a framework or finished music with me or even a concept for the radio play, it would be not so enjoyable and so free for the participants. So I just had the text, it’s a short version of a theatre play by Rainald Goetz called “Jeff Koons” and I made a little edit, I chose some parts of it. That was the only thing I had. I had no sound in mind, I had no strong idea about the piece. The nice thing with workshops is that you never know who shows up, what sort of background people have. And I quite like those situations, even for me as the one who makes the workshop, it’s open. And I can learn from the other ones and see where the path is going through.
And this workshop was fantastic. It turned out to be a really nice group. They had loads of ideas, they had little tape recorders where they went through town and recorded stuff. The whole group had a deep impact on the piece.
Host: Did everything go directly into the laptop?
RL: Yeah. I have nothing else than the laptop. I have some old synthesizer, but they’re mouldy in the basement. I don’t use them anymore. The laptop is the thing for me. Of course I have good preamps and microphones and stuff like that, but that’s my tool.
Host: I wonder if Deb could give us a little bit of information or background on who the indigenous artists are?
DS: We have three artists: Erica, who teaches art history at OCAD, she’s also a trained singer and she does opera. There’s an actor named Angie, who’s done a lot of theatre and film in Toronto and around. There’s a performance artist named Lo, who actually had a piece in “Nuit Blanche”.
Host: And I know you did some “Nuit Blanche”, but we’re not looking backwards, we’re looking ahead and tonight: HUB 14, 6 o’clock, Robert Lippok will give an introduction to the radio workshop play. And we’re going to listen to a little excerpt right now.
(short excerpt of the radio play workshop in progress)
Host: Deb, what’s your immediate interpretation and response to that?
DS: Robert has been working really hard, after the workshop’s done. Some of that stuff I hadn’t heard before. I think it’s really lovely. I have to say, it’s really great to be listening to it in a radio studio and knowing that other people are listening to it at the same time on the radio. It brings a very different life to it somehow.
Host:. Robert, you’ve got any composer’s notes or comments?
RL: I just will talk about the play itself, I will talk a bit about myself. Also about the situation in Berlin in the middle of the 90s, with all the clubs, with the techno scene, which was very influential to literature and the art scene where this theatre play came out. And of course we will play the piece and then we will also open the session (in Logic Pro) where people can see how we made it and what tools we used.
Host: Moving on to Thursday, there’ll be another interaction, specifically between you two. Deb, I wonder if you could speak to the performance at the Music Gallery?
DS: We’re very excited to be playing together for the first time after sharing lots of music in the virtual realm. We’re going to be doing a concert that is co-presented by the Goethe-Institut and Yatra Arts and the Music Gallery.We’re going to present our different sound worlds and we’re going to make some really lovely music together.
Host: Robert, would you have anything else in your computer that might be indicative of some of the sounds that may occur at the Music Gallery concert?
DS: He’s gotta look through his huge library of stuff…
Host (to DS): What are you gonna bring in the realm of gear to the stage?
DS: I will definitely bring some of my favourite frame drums and traditional instruments and some very minimal electronics. I’ve been very interested in how electronics can be used to modify the sounds that these instruments make without completely altering them. I love the sounds of metal and resonation and all those things what it does to how we listen, how we hear, how it brings us to that kind of awareness of the physical space we’re in. And also an awareness of what’s outside our own physical space.
(Robert Lippok track)
Host: To Deb and Robert, thank you very much for the immediacy and the opportunity to experience the world premiere, the global, the planetary exclusive…
RL: … the whole universe premiere! Nobody on Mars heard it before.
Interview mit Ron Gaskin, CKLN Radio, 2. Oktober 2007
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